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CNBC
Sep 27, 2012 3:00pm EDT
showing weakness in this economy. investors not worried about these numbers today. >> we got decent news out of europe and china this morning. either way, we're asking if investors should think twice before buying into this kind of a rally based on what the u.s. economy is telling us right now. let's talk about it in today's "closing bell" exchange. we have larry blazer from mayflower advisers and our own rick santelli and mandy drury. larry glazer, you happen to believe that economically there's an iceberg dead ahead. this market doesn't act like it today. >> no, it doesn't. you can see today investors are so focused on the global stimlouse story that they're missing the big picture. the big picture is the fact that the economic data, particularly global manufacturing data, is absolutely rolling over. look at chinese manufacturing, down 11 months in a row. you hit the nail on the head. gdp, durable goods, all a sign of weakness. the problem is the catalysts are behind us and the icebergs are ahead. you've got the fiscal live, all these things looking at us for those reasons. it's l
CNBC
Oct 2, 2012 3:00pm EDT
and out of the executive suite and of course the economy and business in america as well as globally. we're going to talk with him at 4:30 p.m. eastern. before that, we have some heavy hitters coming up, including the former yahoo! ceo and the coca-cola ceo. all of a that coming up in the program. meanwhile, let's get back to the markets. we have a double-digit decline. in fact, it looks like the dow is on track to close lower for the sixth time in eight trading sessions. the dow jones industrial average now at 13,436, a decline of about 0.5%. if we close lower today that, would be the sixth decline in the last eight trading sessions. a bit of worry about earnings on the trading horizon, as we are expected expecting the stream of earnings to take effect. weakness in apple today. it is about 5% of the s&p 500 and 20% of the nasdaq. so as apple goes, so goes the market. that's what we're seeing once again today. s&p 500 down about five points. that's 1/3 of 1%. with markets in the red, let's look at what this says about where we are in business today. joining me in today's "closing bel
CNBC
Oct 4, 2012 3:00pm EDT
will off more clues about the health of the economy. we're going to get some thoughts about what to expect out of the jobs numbers and from this rally. >> everybody is on board. steve, how about some of the hits, runs, and errors from those feds minutes? it didn't move the markets to any great degree today. >> i think we knew where people stood. the voting members are more or less in favor of the policy that came out, which was the one, the open-ended quantitative easing. the non-voters, there are more objections there. that's where more of the hawks are in the current rotation of the fomc. i don't think we learned anything new about there being a bigger or wider split when it comes to the new policy out there. they do have work to do, guys. they're working on the calendar date guidance. they're working on a whole bunch of other stuff that's out there. for example, the fomc individual interest rate forecast, and i think the way maria led into this, that we need new information, that's absolutely true because we don't know what happens in january. it's unclear how to calibrate the in
CNBC
Sep 28, 2012 3:00pm EDT
this week about the games in the market don't seem to reflect the declines in the economy. there's sort of a disconnect. i think you agree with that, don't you? >> i absolutely agree with you, bill. i think all of september the market has been moved, not by what's going on here in the united states, but what's been going on in europe, which says to me two things. one, any bad news out of europe is going to send the market down. two, eventually people are going to have to pay attention to what's going on in the united states. i'm expecting we're heading into earnings season, i'm expecting anemic growth, and eventually that's going to have to play into the situation here. i mean, i know you don't fight the fed, but eventually we have to come back to what's going on in terms of fundamentals and stop focusing on monetary policy. >> what do you think? are we going to focus on fundamentals? if you are, kurt, would you be a seller of this market? >> we are focused in on fundamentals. i think this has been a tug of war between the reflationists and some of the risk that's been perceived in
CNBC
Sep 26, 2012 3:00pm EDT
upped the price, but now the slowing economy is questioning how long traders can hold on to those premiums. you can't outrun economic fundamentals no matter how much you print. >> what do you think about that, bill? even though corporate america looks strong, looks like the earnings estimates need to come down. >> i think the summer of dal droms are about over. going forward, the thing that might be the big spark that changes the psychology and the ball game is the election. i don't believe all the polls. we'll see what happens. if we're right that there's a seat change and some fellas join the unemployment line deservedly, then you might see money be put to work. this fiscal cliff and all the other nasties we hear about are not going to be permanent dampeners on the economy. i think you have to look forward and anticipate what's next. >> is it the same scenario -- >> that one i disagree on. >> okay. bill, are you looking at different scenarios if the president wins re-election versus a romney win? how are you playing that? >> well, number one, i don't think anybody's going to hav
CNBC
Oct 1, 2012 3:00pm EDT
growth is still too slow to boost the jobs picture. listen to this. >> right now, we see an economy which is expanding. we see employment which is one of the key indicators of recession, still growing. so we expect the economy to continue to grow. that's our best forecast as of now. so we're not expecting a recession. that being said, with an economy growing only sort of 1.5% to 2%, that is not fast enough to lower the unemployment rate. that is my concern. >> all right. we have reaction now to that. and today's big gains in our "closing bell" exchange, plus we're talking strategies for the coming quarter. a quarter that has historically been good for the bulls. with us today, todd of black bay grou group. paul shots of heritage market. and our own rick santelli. paul, i'm going to start with you because you make a bold statement. you feel right now ben bernanke is irrelevant. what do you mean in. >> bill, i think the fed's done the most part, they've laid all their cards on the table. if you're playing poker, they're all in. it's qe unlimited. if $40 billion is not enough, they'll
CNBC
Oct 3, 2012 3:00pm EDT
. are the fed's actions going to have much impact on the economy, and what about the jobs picture right now? >> okay, first you got to recognize the head winds the fed is working against. economic growth is slowing because of uncertainties surrounding the fiscal cliff. analysts were overoptimistic about earnings, and that reality is sinking in. and the world is a risky place. so there's reasons investors lack conviction. with regard to jobs, we've heard the adp number before. i think it's kind of getting old. so i don't take much from the fact that markets didn't respond to the adp report. i think we'll get a solid number, 125-k. >> historically, still a very small number though, right? >> sure. it's one in which we're not making material progress in reducing unemployment, and it's not one the fed will be satisfied with. they told us they're setting a much higher bar for employment gains. >> let's talk about hp here, jeff. a sharp decline in the stock. one of the reasons that the dow industrial is really -- can't break out here in any way. you have a fair amount of winners there. hewlet
CNBC
Sep 27, 2012 4:00pm EDT
the bottom line is the economy is still very, very weak. i'll tell you, we've been on overweight equities for the last six or nine months. we're now starting to pull back some of the risk. yes, the market could rally higher. i don't see the stimulus up as much as i did when everybody didn't believe qe-3 was coming. i think there's more negative potential headlines. we're taking risk off the table right now and hopefully we'll re-enter at a lower position. >> it's interesting. rickntelli, the fiscal cliff keeps coming up. that's one of the biggest issues in terms of keeping businesses from making any real decisions here, putting money to work, and it's also the highlight going into the election. >> it is. i guess the real irony is even if the fiscal cliff didn't exist, the outlook economically, both domestically and globally, is deteriorating. really, it's a bit of a double whammy. i'll go back to what i said the last time we discussed this an hour ago. if you look at the 21 weeks from mid-october to march of 2000 when the nasdaq crashed, in those 21 weeks, the nasdaq almost doubl
CNBC
Oct 3, 2012 4:00pm EDT
chinese economy in particular, the export economy, is structurally broken. i think that's a big change. i've been going to china since 1995. i think there's a fundamental shift in what's going on. we saw that in the caterpillar numbers. you saw that in the federal express numbers. some people think that's cyclical. i think there's prob a m secular component to it. >> this is a very important point you're making because china's growth has been driven by the export economy. you're saying that it's in trouble, it's broken. >> i'm not saying it's broken. i'm saying there's a transition going on towards consumption exporting to europe and real estate are no longer going to be their drivers nap will probably create more volatility than we've had in the past. >> how easy is it to expect this transition? you're buying in the consumer space. >> yes, and you have the transition of the government. one of the other big messages we picked up over there, particularly in i understondia, emerging market central banks, they're very concerned about what the traditional bank of england, fed, ecb a
FOX Business
Sep 27, 2012 3:00pm EDT
their numbers, basically the economy is improving. fewer borrowers are defaulting on their loans, on the debt. seeing more transactions, confidence has been improving for americans so they have been using their cards a little more. and paying it off. that is the environment we are in. nolast but not least, may deal with paypal, so that will add to their future transactions. for today a great day. ashley: ashley:.i. talking to john mccain about the biggest headwind facing the usa today. liz: can you imagine voting for this interview. wait until you listen come back here what he had to say. not just how we get rid of tax abductions, but all of them except two. but also which industries are mature enough that we should rip the rug out from underneath them and stop giving him all kinds of tax breaks. speaking very candidly with me. i first asked about different kinds of government strategies where government works best with this, here' here is what senator mccain had to say. >> you're picking winners and losers, and obvious in the case of solyndra and many others, we have picked losers.
CNBC
Sep 28, 2012 4:00pm EDT
economy. everybody's saying, yeah, things feel better, but it's not perfect yet. >> also, there's no urgency. the fed is telling us rates are going to stay at rock bottom until 2015. i don't have to rush into the market now. >> that and the fact your house is worth now what it was in 2004 before the few years of psycho fraud happened. people aren't saying buy, buy, buy because this is a super investment and it's going to go up 10% a year. yeah, people are waiting for the right house. there's people i've had as buyers who have waited a year to find the right house. yeah, they paid a little more for it, but it was worth the wait. people are picky too. >> diana, there's just no urgency. >> no urgency. i was just talking to an investor today. he was talking about this fundamental shift in attitudes toward homeownership. it's just not what it used to be. a lot of potential buyers out there are saying i can rent a single family home and even though, you know, home sale prices are lower and affordability is supposedly better, i don't have to deal with a mortgage. i don't have to deal with t
CNBC
Sep 26, 2012 4:00pm EDT
necessary to get these economies to grow. you have to stabilize the patient before you try and fission their long-term problems. the politicians don't do this. that means europe stays in a recession. for u.s. investors, i think it is still something of a side show. >> something of a side show. until they either come up with the austerity or -- something's got to give, right? >> because it doesn't disrupt the u.s. economy. the u.s. economy is still growing. our exports to europe are only a very small part of our gdp. the housing market recovery is much more important to the improvement of wealth. we're seeing some improvement of confidence. we're seeing rising home prices. all these are more important to the united states than what's going on in europe. >> mark, how do you see it? you invested in europe these days or no? >> a little bit, maria. you know, i guess the thing i would say about europe and soon to watch on our shores is you're going to pay more and get less. i look forward to the dislocation between price and value. i think there are a few opportunities in europe selectively.
CNBC
Oct 4, 2012 4:00pm EDT
adrenaline into economies. >> sandy, is there any reason to believe all of this buying of equities is just what michael said, the central banks of the world and really not based on fundamenta fundamentals, or is this old news at this point that we're going see a contraction in third quarter earnings as these numbers come out in the next couple weeks? >> i don't even know that people are buying equity. we've had about $8 billion that have come out of equities in the last two weeks and $6.3 billion that thhave come out of bonds. the stocks continue to work higher on that. you want to be positioned well. you want to buy good companies, good growth companies at reasonable prices and stick with that over the long term. >> you make a great point, sandy. we are, in fact, seeing outflows consistently. what's moving this market? >> i think it has to do with the election and things like that. look at last five years. i was just looking at numbers ending september over the five years. the s&p's done 1% annualized. bonds are up almost 5.8% annualized. i believe in reversion to the mean. i think s
FOX Business
Oct 1, 2012 3:00pm EDT
defense for pouring more fed dollars in economy, and the markets pulled back. rich edson will have more on mr. bernanke's speech coming up. and the dow is still up, 161 points, that is the biggest intraday point gain, by the way, since september the 13th financial stocks leading the dow right now including, yes, the bank of america, america express, jpmorgan all having banner days. microsoft remaining the biggest laggard after two price targets cuts from jeffrey's and rbc. we've got traders at the new york stock exchange, the cme group and the nymex. let's take a look at the cme, charlie needles, the cme. charlie, what a day? is it all on the back of the ism numbers? >> it is. you know, chi pmi came out overnight, and that showed things have stabilized there, in china. european pmi was in line, not lighting the world on fire. a little concern over the employment situation there. but if you look at the breakdown of the u.s. pmi, you kind of hit on all cylinders. the prices paid was actually a little higher, but if you're trying to reflate the market, that's a decent measure. it had
FOX Business
Oct 2, 2012 3:00pm EDT
-digit percentages. then, the splits. the market versus the economy. the u.s. falling into recession pits again. our investors and for a stock surprise? mike holland thinks so. he is the chairman of holland and company. he is spending the last hour with us. you think there is a stock surprise that is a good one coming up? >> yes. i think if you had to characterize my years doing what i am doing, it is as a survivor. you have to be prepared for surprises in both directions. whenever we talk about you and i, that things can happen, we just heard three people talking about that. the things can happen, as well. ted weisberg is so smart. so good to listen to. his comments about what is going on, i think, are always -- liz: i love teddy. he has been well funneled and it is kind of obvious, it is the government trade, the central bank trade. >> i was shocked to not hear him say that. bernanke said a few years ago we have a problem. it would not be solved by the people in congress or in the white house. he actually said, this is not a deep secret, he can get the stock market and financial as
FOX Business
Oct 4, 2012 3:00pm EDT
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CNBC
Oct 1, 2012 4:00pm EDT
good read on the economy with maria's exclusive interview there in san francisco with the president of oracle corp, mark hurd. i'll see you tomorrow. >>> and it is 4:00 on wall street. do you know where your money is? hi, everybody, welcome back to "the closing bell." i'm maria bartiromo coming to you today from san francisco. we're following up the close this monday night. stocks losing steam in the final hours of trading today. dow industrials had a rip roaring day, thebest, up as many as 161 points. after stronger than expected manufacturing data set the tone this morning for this market. stocks gave back much of the gains after federal reserve chairman ben bernanke defended the central bank's latest bond buying stimulus program. is that a red flag that this fed-fueled rally is in trouble? top strategists are weigh in tonight. take a look at how we're finishing the day on wall street. as you can see, things settled out, dow jones industrial average held on to a double-digit move, although well off of that 161-point rally. the nasdaq went negative, although it, too, came back off
FOX Business
Oct 3, 2012 3:00pm EDT
losing steam. let's take a look at some good news economy released. institute for non manufacturing index rose 5 to 55.1 in september. that is up from last month. any reading above 50 signals activity is expanding. on the jobs front private sector payrolls increased by 162,000 last month according to the payroll processing firm adp. that is higher than expected. positive news boosting stocks, the dow losing steam. volume below average even by recent standards. hewlett-packard the biggest drag on the dow hitting its lowest level in ten years after the company issued a very bleak forecast for the 2013 period due to a decrease in technology spending worldwide. oil falling well below 9500 in terms of slowing demand. the impact of china and drop in oil prices making the energy sector the worst performing sector today. oil settling down by $3.75. i am here filling in for liz claman because liz claman is in cleveland, of ohio. her old stomping ground as part of the open for business series and liz will talk to business leaders to find out how the city turned itself around. we want to know. give
FOX Business
Sep 26, 2012 3:00pm EDT
reason. their economy will suffer a double little bit. they need crude-oil. people driving cars over there show the market coming of the way it did. those cracks blew out today. refinery fire in canada turned out to the storage tank. if you look at the cracks between the prices of crude oil versus gasoline that made a tremendous move today and there are other factors. may be a blip in that market but those cracks have been strong going forward so you will see strength in the product versus crude even if the crude comes -- will move out. cheryl: one other issue. talking about the election and november around the corner. do you find people sort of have true conversations about investment decisions at the end of the year? >> absolutely and people will be more concerned about that in october. the first of three presidential debates was the vice-presidential debate. people are disgusted with the lack of movement in washington concerning the fiscal cliff so part of the problem, the apathy in the market is people don't know where to go. very unclear and the light at the end of the tunnel is
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